The subject of Danièle Huillet and Jean-Marie Straub’s Der Tod des Empedokles (The Death of Empedocles, 1987) is the Greek pre-Socratic philosopher Empedocles (c. 490 BC – 430 BC), who lived in the Greek colony of Agrigentum in Sicily. His theories are mentioned in several of Plato’s dialogues. He maintained that all matter is made up of four irreducible elements: water, earth, air and fire. A mystic and a poet, he is considered to be the founder of classical rhetoric. He is also thought to be the last Greek philosopher to write in verse; two fragments of his works survive: Katharmoi (Purifications) and Peri Phuseôs (On Nature). An advocate of democracy, he came into conflict with his fellow citizens of Agrigentum and, as result, was banished with his young disciple, Pausanius. When he was asked to return, he preferred to commit suicide by throwing himself into the active volcano at Mount Aetna.
The German writer Friedrich Hölderlin wrote two versions of Der Tod des Empedokles in 1798 and 1800, and a final third version in 1820, all three ultimately unfinished. They were conceived as five-act tragedies and all three differ in plot. According to Michael Hamburger, Hölderlin’s English-language translator,
the main reason why Hölderlin finished no version of the play must be that he remained too closely identified with Empedocles, at the very period in his life when his own view of the poet as philosopher, prophet and priest – and as tragic hero – was subject to perpetual crisis and re-examination.
Huillet-Straub’s The Death of Empedocles is based on Hölderlin’s first version (the longest of the three), whereas Black Sin is based on the third version.
这部把金大钟塑造成了一个理想主义者，但是“造王者”这种影子的存在又暗喻了不管什么主义从了政就都是野心家。现史里，这位金大中总统的一生简直就是玄幻剧啊。
理想主义的老板和不择手段的幕后军师，恒久不变的矛盾。
比起《南山的部长们》更喜欢这部，镜头对准pro-democracy的崛起、分裂和落败。当理想主义者发现自己改变世界的目标只是一坨狗屎的时候，他会坚决地用自己的手段摧毁掉曾经建立起来的一切。
一天看了两部可以打五星的片真满足～金云范的虚伪在假装捞人又没去的那场戏中暴露了，他一向伪装得很好，解雇昌大是因为他己是弃子需要割席了，至于问是否昌大所为，诚如他自己所说，只是为了让他更容易做此决断，昌大是最懂他的人，所以认了这不是自己干的活。哪怕这被昌大如此忠心信仰的政治家也不难看出其虚伪，政治家就一群善于操纵民众的人，至于正义？能爬到那个位子的人，多多少少都很难没有非正义之举动吧～这片拍出来就是警告韩国人操纵陷阱太多？
军师，不亏是智慧担当，那一房间的书，那种东西
②:要是手段代替了目的怎麽辦?
本以为是一招 公子献头
亮点是那个局长，像功夫里的酱爆，演得真好，喜欢。
以金大中为原型的政治类影片，为达目的，不择手段，然而现实只会更加黑暗不堪。薛景求和李善均的组合无比丝滑。
不是，这里怎么也有一个叫昌大的有志青年要拜薛景求为师啊，跳戏了😅hhh
不是，这里怎么也有一个叫昌大的有志青年要拜薛景求为师啊，跳戏了😅hhh
既是解药也是毒药，金云范最终知道了影子的使用方法
拍得蛮工整的，质感不错。故事高概念搞二元对位，爽感不大。比较有意思的是薛景求演的金中大，整个扮猪吃老虎，一边装纯一边腹黑，也体现在一些重大决策时的空间分隔调度上。导演还是有想法。薛的角色甚至还能和《兹山鱼谱》对照着看。
故事完整而紧凑，导演的运镜非常讲究，光线明暗教科书级别的调度。双男主的对手戏拳拳到肉，薛景求内敛而又有力的表演，李善均也并不逊色，韩国的政治片真是世界顶级水平。
“搞政治的人不会演戏也是无能的”——韩国政坛奥斯卡
韩国的政治类影片以风格大胆、笔锋犀利著称，本片主要是揭示了60年代一段选举的故事，从选举的双方入手，描写了“一人一票选举”这种政治形态，在韩国发生发展，以及背后的内幕。影片采用隐喻的手法，影射了当时的真实故事，并采取了一些黑白纪录片的形式显示，增加故事的真实性。
韩国拍政治片确实独到，金大中对影子幕僚的态度值得玩味，党魁选举这场戏惊心动魄，只是还是略理想化了点。薛景求和李善均稳得不行。
这样的题材拍的不沉闷很流畅很难得，观影可看性很高。不清楚韩国历史就不对此评价，只是影子（昌大）对大多数选民的看法是直白的、精准的——口号不是良药，企图让所有人都满意往往大家都不满意，所以极端分化身份，创造对立，尽量圈主比对面多的人就可以胜利了。
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