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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
***其实是艺术片 不能按照商业片（包含文艺片）的类型来看待
操拟吗 扎克施奈德 老子四年青春的等来的就是这个吗！操拟吗
让人间有鬼气，让地府有生气。在哪都一样，怎么都接着过日子，几十年来尽如此，反而是种终极宽慰吧。
一幅横向移动的卷轴 #MoMI screening
这就是史上最棒的超级英雄电影！这就是扎克施耐德！
论项目预算，项目分期的重要性以及项目重建的必要性。
它不能算是全新的正义联盟，也不能算是正义联盟的原本模样，但它却是单部正义联盟应该有的完整样子。四个小时的时长原本就是华纳仓促布局试图跃进赶超漫威的产物，而尾灯版大量删减的也正是扎导试图去临时丰富的新英雄人设，而扎导版也恰恰证实了这些塑造的重要性。无论是钢骨还是小闪，都在闪耀着自己的光芒。除此之外，扎导快慢结合的镜头节奏使得打斗极具漫画与力道感，0.5倍速反复观看了好久！狠辣的杀戮也让一脉相承的黑暗风沿袭了下来，几个名场面的镜头（小闪乱拳、海王定海、踏尸天降）以及合作杀敌分尸的场面真是过瘾。不过遗憾的是，与尾灯版一脉相承的反派与蝙蝠过弱（包括达克赛德的打斗）使得影片的上限天然的矮了三分。最后，传奇的不是正义联盟，而是扎克施奈德和所有努力使得这部导剪版见世的人！
旧戏新唱周复始，真作假时假亦真。一股鬼气。
Anthology film archives
非常好看！的确是a new old play as in 描写的这一段近代史都是已经很熟悉的内容（still每次都会感叹好苦啊）但是新的效果特别好，3小时也不觉得长/闷，“舞台”但不死板，很活
除了扎导的选歌品味，其他都无感。the mortal coil 的 song to the siren, 或者预告的Hallelujah，这种类似MV慢镜头的玩意我欲罢不能。
他们枯燥乏味，是生存在新教伦理的理想人物，除了亲情爱情、父子情、姐妹情、崇拜之情的基本种类以外，情感分寸没有把握好，刻板僵化，只成为身份认证和抓手，而全片更多情绪情感的细节完全不在场，许多对话堪称稚嫩和淤塞。
华纳不勇敢，扎司令勇敢。我想不管多少溢美之词来形容扎克施耐德版正义联盟与它背后的这场伟大的导剪运动相比都会显得苍白无力。
华纳不勇敢，扎司令勇敢。我想不管多少溢美之词来形容扎克施耐德版正义联盟与它背后的这场伟大的导剪运动相比都会显得苍白无力。
略失望。既是电影也是舞台剧，熟人合作的玩票性质以及剑走偏锋的怪诞并不能成为不流畅的借口。我是云南人，四川话我全懂，照理说里面的笑话于我不存在隔阂，但我一点没被所谓的幽默打动（跟看毕赣的感觉相反）。布莱希特和贝克特学得牵强，前作都太成熟太到位，这部却带着某种优秀毕业作品的别扭。
史诗故事确实需要时间铺平垫稳，娓娓道来。不仅展示火爆的战斗场面，更重要的是为何而战。目前还没有独立电影的钢骨和闪电侠这回立住了。其实仔细想想，每个英雄都背负着与父辈之间的心结，在战斗中化解，完成自我成长。蝙蝠侠独踹敌营，还真有领袖气质。这暗黑的画面质感爱了爱了。正义联盟集结完毕，不义联盟的高潮还不快点安排上。
看完后长吁一口，结束了。自己对DCEU的最后的牵挂也没有了，就是看最后三十分钟时的意难平，千言万语都只能变成一句，FUXK YOU 华纳！
有点长，但还是很特别，像动画片。另一个「在这世界的角落」。
故事终于完整 希望以后的dc风格也能够统一 闪电侠跑步姿势还是很丑 还以为会有一版跟电视剧版一样
震撼、回味、经典，如此形容扎导的作品一点都不过分，四个多小时看似长得咋舌，实际看下去觉得根本不够看。恢宏的悲歌，多线索的描绘，生与死成和败都不再是三言两语能够解释清楚的事情。每一位英雄都有自己的抱负和顾虑，不是简简单单三言两语就开打的无脑剧情，看完才感觉上映版是如此地粗糙潦草。
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