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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
我还是愿意花一个半小时去看一个人搬起石头砸自己的脚，而不是两个半……有一种把I'm 硬拉长成my name is的感觉
第一幕马戏团篇幅虽然很陀螺但是和后面的故事太格格不入了，完全割裂开了
[명씨네] 这不挺好吗。即便引线埋得并不深，也隐隐猜到最后会出现那句台词(temporary job)，结局还是非常有冲击力。完全招架不住心理层面的惊悚，或许因为逐渐感受到堕落是一种本能，看到人的贪欲呈指数式膨胀，他可以那么轻易地臣服、溃退、作恶、失去人形，就憋闷得慌。陀螺的片讨厌和喜欢的好像各占一半，但不得不说整体性都很强，适合“大片”的无短板技术型。而且他的“暗黑”元素也并不是奇观式的堆砌，很多时候观看的不适是因为发现了欲望的灰色地带，不像有的导演只为展现自己的私人癖好（...）可惜的是篇幅已经做到这么长了，但对三位女演员的刻画都不够立体。
没看完旧版…太长了吧，转折太慢了吧，装服真的很不错，也有很多伏笔和暗示，演技感觉也没完全发挥…
前半段马戏团部分有让我想起小时候游乐园里看到过的畸形秀，长大后再也没有了。
快进看完的。男主一开始就有原罪啊，活活冻死了自己的父亲，然后放火烧了房子。请问动机是什么？就是为了说明这个男子天生是坏蛋吗？但他在马戏团的表现有好像温文尔雅，不像是个能杀父亲的人啊！！！还谈了一段浪漫的恋爱。然后画风突转，马上变坏了。原来重头戏在后面。但前面已经放了一个小时了！！铺垫太长！后面事情败露后，女律师栽赃的戏份，太过于明显了。那样直接在办公室暴露自己，只怕是会死得更快！男子前面聪明的不行，后面居然如此糊涂。。
苦力成长为小骗子，小骗子变成大骗子，结局是大骗子让骗子给骗了。人心不足蛇吞象，本来在任何一个阶段止步都可以得善终……
終仍然走向了無法回頭的道路，裝神弄鬼的最高境界，就是深深相信自己是神能看穿每個人，但是看不穿的是人家早已預謀多時要反咬你一口。片中最好的表演就是凱特女王了，無時無刻散發女王氣場，魯尼第二好，達佛和克莉蒂戲份表演持平。郎普曼就跟別抬頭一樣是湊湊熱鬧，女王應該可以靠別抬頭或是這部角逐女配，至於布萊德利庫柏..正常發揮啦哈
陀螺又把自己最喜欢的那些东西拍成了一部电影，但这个剧情确实差点意思。
4.5，没看过原作，2.30小时不觉得长，意犹未尽。
1.只有我觉得凯特和布莱德利之间一点性张力都没有吗 2.理解马戏团的个人趣味大展演，但是全片两个半小时确实用不着
置景看上去真有钱啊，女演员们都还可以，单Cooper不太行。陀螺确实有为怀旧而怀旧的嫌疑，还是搞点原创剧本吧。
巴登很好，本片也可以看，但我真没什么想说的——把员工当私人奴隶？把实习生当性资源？对老婆不忠？对维权下属用尽毒手？欺骗、控制、企业德不配位？西班牙资本家真是堕落。是的，但你回来多搜点新闻多看两眼报纸，去仲裁走一圈，你会发现巴登这老板居然还算不错的。
陀螺在翻牌传统黑色电影的宿命论文本上構合了更多现代主义背景下的行为心理学象征，并成功结构出一个多层嵌套的镜像心理结构：由主角—父亲—皮特—geek，由母亲—女友—作为异性镜像的布兰切特，最终在类似库斯图里卡、佐杜洛夫斯基的心理现实隐喻场景“马戏团”中得以闭合，在形式逻辑上过足了瘾。
大魔王到底起了个什么作用？很多没有说明白的地方，表达的也比较隐晦。
完全消解了原版里男主的性本恶和马戏团的神秘色彩 不是陀螺的话根本不会看完的程度 还原了老版最初想要的结局 但放在新版里水土不服
大牌演员组合，德尔托罗审美趣味，问题是作品是一部敷衍的行货
7分吧，服化道摄都很美，后半部分很好看，喜欢结尾。
已看一半。
值得一看，但要夸真夸不出什么来，中规中矩的良心制作吧，也只能这样说。
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